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hi I'm Raquel Villanueva coming to you

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live from NASA's jet propulsion

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laboratory in Southern California today

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we have a very special guest the

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director of JPL Lori leschen not only is

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she the first woman to lead JPL she's

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also known for her barrier-breaking

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leadership in the space industry and

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Academia she's also an accomplished

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geochemist and space scientist we'll

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talk about her first 10 months here at

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JPL and also talk about some of the

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questions you've asked over the past

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couple days on Instagram so we're gonna

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get started here in a second and I'm

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going to connect with Lori and while we

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get connected where is everyone joining

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us from today

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Let's see we are connecting with her

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right now

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there we go

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someone's coming in from Chile hello

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yeah and we say Lori Hi how are you

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welcome

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good how are you doing and it looks like

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you're joining us today where are you

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fantastic so you started last May can

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you believe it's almost in a year 10

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months have gone like the fastest 10

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months of my life and and some of the

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like what stands out most people of JPL

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just the incredible team here first of

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all everybody's just been so

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extraordinarily welcoming to me and

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supportive as I've gotten to know the

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place better I knew JPL well before

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because I've worked with JPL for decades

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but being here every single day is just

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that's fantastic stick and we love

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having you here also you know it is

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women's history month and what does it

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mean to you to be the first woman to

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lead JPL and then what are you doing to

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help women at JPL

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it's a thrill first of all to be doing

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this during women's history month so

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thanks to everybody who's watching but

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um you know for me being the first woman

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in the now almost 87 year history of JPL

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it's a huge honor and I definitely feel

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that it's a responsibility as well I'm

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as a leader as a woman leader we hold

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space for other women you know we really

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work to help make our organizations

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places where everyone can Thrive not

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just women but but men too uh all folks

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everyone can Thrive and so I just have

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focused on again trying to continue a

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great legacy of JPL of having diverse

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teams we we recently crossed the

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threshold of having more than 2 000

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women on our team at JPL which is is a

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incredibly exciting so a lot more work

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to do always to make our organizations

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um as inclusive as they can be and

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that's certainly our goal here at JPL

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one of the things we're really working

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towards is having more women in

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technical leadership roles right we have

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these two thousand incredible women many

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of them are extraordinary I have

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extraordinary technical backgrounds and

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we want the to make sure they're

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reaching leadership potential here as

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well I can tell through the comments so

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many people are inspired by you right

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now and I'd also like to know is there a

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specific woman that has inspired you

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throughout your life well I would say

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there are two that I would name so first

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is my own mom my mom Jerry Lerner lesson

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was her name she passed away about 18

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months ago

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um and uh she was really the light of my

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life in so many ways but mostly she was

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the person who always told me I could do

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anything and I learned by watching her

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uh she you know raised a family she had

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a great career she was

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um just a special human being and so she

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um in terms of professional women uh

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Sally Ride was a huge inspiration to me

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I was fortunate enough to become friends

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with her and colleagues with her and

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I've learned so much on how to

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take the opportunities that we are given

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but also the responsibility that comes

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now those are two great tributes and it

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was great to hear from you on those we

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also have some Instagram questions that

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came in from people who've been

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submitting them for the past couple days

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uh Ethan wants to know what is a typical

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day is there's no typical day uh so

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that's except that's one of the most

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exciting things is every week There's

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incredible things happening so it might

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be that oh hey we just got a new sensor

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Europa Clipper spacecraft over here and

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oh on on Friday we got first light from

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our new Earth Science Mission studying

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Earth's water so every single week there

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are a number of incredible things

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happening because we're working on we're

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flying about 40 missions we're working

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on another couple of dozen missions in

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different stages of going from like the

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kernel of an idea all the way to getting

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ready to be launched so there's always

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something different each and every day

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and for me my day is about trying to

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support our teens so that they can

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succeed in exploring the frontiers of

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fantastic and Katie would actually like

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to know what steps did you take to get

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um I was actually on a fairly

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traditional academic path I realized in

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college it's a longer story but I won't

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tell you the long story I realized in

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college that I I by fascination with

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space could also potentially be a career

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um I studied hard and got a PhD at

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Caltech actually which is which operates

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JPL for NASA so now it's great to be

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back part of the Caltech family

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um and then I was a professor and got

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tenure and we had students and was

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teaching and doing research and I was on

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a pretty traditional path and then for

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lots of reasons that again I don't have

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time to to go into I actually ditched my

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tenure and went and joined NASA for a

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while moved to the east coast

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um kind of uprooted my whole life and

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three different jobs and then I went

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Massachusetts called WPI Worcester

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go Nation go goats

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um and uh and so being able to kind of

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broaden my experience do more than one

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type of job in my career was a really

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important part of what has enabled me

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now to be ready to come and and lead a

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fantastic and it's great to hear that

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there wasn't one linear path for you

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that you did exactly definitely not a

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linear path and and in fact so much of

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it I really feel is about learning to

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recognize good opportunities not every

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opportunity is a good opportunity but

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learning to recognize those and then

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right turn from where you might have

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expected your career to go it's often

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those experiences that can be really

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broadening that can help us then make an

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Ed this next question Lori is going to

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test your movie knowledge here so Singh

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is wanting to know Interstellar or the

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Marshall both Mac movies right

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McConaughey and Damon how to choose how

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even better than the movie if you can

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believe it and a lot more stuff happens

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to them in the in the book that happens

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that uh technically that even people

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into it so and and just the idea of

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being able to sit on a on a edge of a

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cliff on Mars and look out over that

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landscape that's a dream I've had since

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the future holds I think our future is

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really really exciting so we have a lot

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so in uh solar system exploration which

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people kind of know us as the Mars rover

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people but we also send missions to

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other parts of the solar system so just

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a metal world it's a metal asteroid

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metal world before it's going to go into

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orbit around uh this asteroid and and

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that's going to explore the icy Moon

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that's orbiting Jupiter that we think

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has a liquid water ocean beneath the icy

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moon it's so exciting this is a

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technicians actually building the Europa

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system actually the the biggest one the

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biggest solar system Mission we will

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have ever attempted is something called

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Mars sample return where we want to go

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to Mars and pick up

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around and collecting drilling little

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pieces of rock that are about the size

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of your pinky and collecting them really

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fascinating rocks that could answer the

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question about whether we're alone in

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the universe we're going to send a

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mission to go get those rocks and bring

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box that you see that says live for

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anyone that wants to watch Lord do you

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catch yourself sometimes just watching

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that it's so fun it's cool to see like

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how people are just working it's great

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because it gives you a simple scale of

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the spacecraft because you can see

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people on it and the people are like

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this and the spacecraft's like this and

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it's really big

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um it's it's quite impressive um Mission

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that's gonna fly all the way out to

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Jupiter which is five times further from

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the Sun than the Earth and as big as the

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spacecraft itself is the solar panels

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that are needed to power it out at

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Jupiter are the size of a basketball

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court and they're gigantic they're

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they're the length of a basketball court

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so it's it's really a huge thing it's I

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think it's probably the biggest thing

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we've built our sample return will be a

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little bit bigger even which is if you

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believe it it's great to talk about that

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sense of scale because you can't really

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see it inanimate so go check out the

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live camera and then you can see it

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compared to people right so you can see

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perfect and you know what I'm going to

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ask you a continuation of what you were

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talking about what yeah so you know

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again people know us for solar system

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exploration planets

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in some ways what animates us really is

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is these questions about life on Earth

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and life in the universe and so we are

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exploring Mars we are exploring moons of

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Jupiter but but the other place to think

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about life elsewhere is on planets

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around other stars and so we are

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building you know we just launched the

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amazing um we NASA just launched the

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amazing James Webb Space Telescope and

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we JPL had an instrument on board that

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Space Telescope the next Space Telescope

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that's going to launch in about 2027 is

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called the Nancy Grace Romans face

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telescope named after an awesome woman

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she was amazing and

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um and we're building a sensor and

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instrument for that called the

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chronograph instrument its job is to if

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you want to take a family portrait of

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another solar system like lots of

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pictures of of the planets around the

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other stars it's hard to do because the

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light of the star is so bright that you

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can't see the planets so this instrument

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actually really really effectively

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blocks the light of the star are so that

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we can see the planets themselves and

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that's what this instrument is going to

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do and so we're going to take dozens

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hundreds even maybe even more family

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portraits of other solar systems and

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that is the first step to sort of trying

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to sense whether life could have gotten

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started on some of those planets and so

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it's a huge technology Leap Forward and

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I think it's going to blow people's

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minds when it flies the other big thing

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that we do here at JPL is try and

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protect life here on Earth and so we

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haven't this is sort of a best kept

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secret I would say about JPL is we have

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a ton of our science missions here

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missions that we launched that look back

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down at Earth to try and understand our

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own Planet how it's changing and

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evolving and try and put you know

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actionable information in the hands of

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people who need it as they're making

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decisions about the future of our planet

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so not only understanding it better from

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a science point of view but really

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making a difference in people's lives I

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just saw a presentation this morning

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about a sensor that we have flying on

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the International Space Station right

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now which is learning about heat the

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heat effects in cities and and cities

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are actually doing things to try and

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reduce the say the heat that's released

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from roadways by painting them different

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colors and we're actually sensing what

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kind of difference that's making heat

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waves are the biggest natural killers of

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people in in our country and to be able

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to help cities manage heat more

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effectively it's amazing so those are

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the kind of things we do with our earth

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science missions we just launched SWAT

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which is looking at Earth's water and

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next we have a mission called nysar

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which is going to under help us

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understand all these kind of things

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happening on land whether it's

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ecosystems and biomass earthquakes and

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volcanoes and also just how the ice

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sheets are changing so that was a lot

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there's a lot happening here it's so

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exciting any given day it could be Earth

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it could be Mars it could be Jupiter uh

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it was a really nice comprehensive list

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and great to bring up all the Earth

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missions

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this is something that people don't

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realize how much you can learn about our

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own planet from space it's uh it's a

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really critical part of of understanding

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how Earth is changing and and what we

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can do to um to mitigate that change to

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to manage it better like

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um managing greenhouse gas emissions but

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also to adapt to our changing plan to

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really understand how coastlines are

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changing and flood risk and things like

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this

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um so we're working on all of those

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and I'm again reading some of these

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comments that are coming in Lori and

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this is kind of the question to wrap it

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up people want some advice for young

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professionals

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um young women specifically who want to

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enter a career and pursue stem what what

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kind of advice do you have just go for

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it because there is a place for you

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there's a place for you at JPL there's a

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place for you in stem Fields they are we

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are getting better and better all the

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time at making stem a place for everyone

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is it perfect is any

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um institution perfect it is not but but

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the only way that we continue to make

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space the place for everyone is to have

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people continue to to come in and and

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work on space with us so for women who

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are interested for anyone who's

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interested in exploring a career in

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space you know studying science as or

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engineering is a great way to uh to

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pursue that there are so many

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um exciting ways that you can get

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involved whether you're basically any

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kind of of scientists or almost any kind

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of engineer there's a an aspect of what

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we do in space exploration that you can

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participate in but I'll tell you what we

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have communications professionals like

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yourself at JPL we have attorneys we

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have all kind business people who help

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us with the finances and the scheduling

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and making sure that we understand what

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it's going to take to achieve our

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missions you know facilities folks we

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have all kinds of people involved in in

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sending our missions to space when when

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we launch something into space it's not

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only scientists and Engineers that make

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it happen it's it's a huge diverse team

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and so there are a lot of different ways

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to get involved in the space business so

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that's the other thing I would say and

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if you dream about it you know keep that

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dream alive and keep working towards it

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there are a lot of ways for young people

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to get involved with NASA you can NASA

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has education programs that start you

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know early in your in your educational

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time and then go through internships and

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things in college those are really

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important to to go for if you want to be

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a part of the space industry it's great

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to start young and get that experience

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that's where we meet a lot of our future

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employees is through our internship

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programs so definitely encourage people

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to go on our website and look at those

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um and and and apply and become a part

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of a part of our team and if you're an

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engineer out there now who's looking for

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work or thinking about making a career

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change hey check out our jobs website

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because we have positions open so we're

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always happy to uh to have folks join us

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and that website is jpl.jobs and a

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little tiny add-on to that question too

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is people wanted to know what you did

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and what you studied specifically yeah

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so I started in college I start out in

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chemistry I was I had a lot of interest

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as a young person I was you know I was

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editor of my high school yearbook so I

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was thinking about journalism actually

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and then I was also sort of a geek uh in

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a good way I think Geeks are awesome but

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uh so I was maybe going to study math

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but I actually had a really really good

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chemistry professor as a freshman and

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got excited about chemistry so I

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declared a chemistry major I'm not a

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person who like knew from the age of 10

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exactly what I wanted to do that's not

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the case for me I really sort of

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followed things as they came along and

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learned to take advantage of them so I I

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was a chemistry major but then I I

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managed to get the summer internship at

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Nasa when I was 19 and again it's a

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longer story but I realized that most of

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the people I was working with they were

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doing research on

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um on different planets in the solar

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system they were mostly geologists I had

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never taken any geology so I went back

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to school as a junior in college and

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took a geology course and it turned out

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to be with a professor who was working

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on Mars and so I ended up starting to do

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research with him but then pretty

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quickly discovered that there was

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interesting science to be done at the

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intersection of chemistry and geology

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and so many of the questions we're

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asking whether it's about you know life

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on mars or oceans on Europa

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take an interdisciplinary approach it's

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not just about physics or chemistry or

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biology it's a little bit of everything

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the planets to understand a planet you

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have to understand lots of different

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kinds of science a bit and so I enjoyed

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that interdisciplinary approach so I I

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started thinking about working in

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geochemistry at the intersection of the

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two things I was interested in and it

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turned out that Caltech had a great PhD

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program in geochemistry and so I was

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able to to come here to it to Pasadena

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to Caltech for grad school and study

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meteorites so I I worked on meteorites

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for my doctorate and that's kind of yeah

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it's always really fascinating to hear

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just these Pathways too because

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sometimes when you you don't know it

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exists until you hear it and it was

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great and look I just people think like

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I have to figure out the perfect path to

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get to my goal my message to you is

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there is no one path that will either

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get you there or not get you there there

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are many many paths that can get you

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there so you know if you're interested

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in working in space probably the easiest

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way to get involved is to you know do

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that science and engineering or science

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or engineering actually science and

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engineering is really powerful when you

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bring those two together so you know

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continue to think about

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um you know don't opt out of those

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science and math courses lead into them

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and and uh and try and get that hands-on

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experience whether that's you know first

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robotics I love first robotics you know

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outside the classroom getting hands-on

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experience building robots or you know

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internship opportunities or whatever

554
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they might be because that's also what

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brings stem to life it's not about

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what's in the textbooks it's about how

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that is a fantastic message to wrap all

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of this up thank you so much thank you

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it was great to be with you and thanks

560
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again to everyone for watching this was

561
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of course and I'm just gonna let viewers

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know that if they want to know more

563
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about our missions and our projects they

564
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can follow at NASA JPL and to learn

565
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about life at JPL like you were talking

566
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about and career opportunities there's

567
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also at NASA JPL careers that's where

568
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you're coming live to us now right now

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and jpl.jobs for those career

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opportunities thank you again as we